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I agree with you 100%

This is what you have to do in the financial industry or you will never get anywhere.  Many of our major clients have a very ethical site and a rinse and repeat site I like to call them.  This is the only way anymore.

Have a great day and a happy holiday.

MB

There are a few things here that I think you should be aware of.

1 if you leave it like that, you will have duplicate content issues, because both of those pages are the same, the pictures are just in different places.

2. The page http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/c/43/72/221/Electrical   is a pr3 and the other is a pr1.  I would personally keep the pr3 page and 301 redirect the other page to that page so you no longer have those duplicate content issues on your site. That way if you have anyone still visit that page through old links they will still end up on that pr3 page.

3. The url structure, is a bit messy for your site.  I generally advise others to have something a long these lines. http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/electrical  this is an SEO friendly url.  I am not saying the ones you have now won't work, it's just a bit messy that's all.  Personally though if your getting good traffic to it, I wouldn't mess with it at all.  Now if you were just starting out I would say change them asap.

In the future when making new pages, I would set it up to make a proper url structure.

Have a great day.

Matthew Boley

Citations need to be for address specific, because they should all match up.  So just area specific no, because if it was possible it would allow others to rank up for local terms in any city they would like around the world.  So I highly suggest you get an address in some way.  Maybe a friends address, a home address of your own, or something in that area you could possibly use as an address.  It has to be a location that has never been used with Google local before though.

How did you signup with Google local or place page with no address?

Have a nice day.

MB

Ok great and we are also getting that together for you on our end through majestic SEO.  We can analyze the lost links and have included that in our submission.

We are also editing your disavow link list to add the # at the top with a comment. Google asks that we do that.

Have a nice day.

MB

Yes actually,

When you submit your reconsideration request make sure you get everything above I said in her message together such as your lost links overtime.  You can use those lost links as some of your advantage and make it look like you took time to remove links to your site which they like the efforts.

No one really knows how many links need to come down, but many studies show 16% of your links.  Now I have had some sites where it's 80% and some that I didn't have to remove any at all which is very odd, but yes your reading that right 0 links removed and I got back into Google for a clients site.

Don't get discouraged though if the first time you respond they turn you down.  It's pretty normal for them to turn you down the first time and then after you resubmit a 2nd time I feel that a real person views it instead of a bot/automation process which is usually the 1st time.

Have a nice day.

MB

Just remember that it can take some time.  It can take up to 6 weeks for all data to be refreshed, however I have noticed some as early as 2 - 3 weeks.  Where 3 weeks is the average.  My fastest ever is day 2 the disavow was out, we had a 48 turn around of a refresh, but haven't seen anything like that since.

Have a great day.

MB

Right now, I can tell you that I have a message proving that directories will indeed get you penalized.  I had a pr4 51 authority link on a directory site that was very popular.  Google doesn't generally give you an hints on links, but they did and I have proof.  They told me to take specific directory links down that we built to very relevant sections.  Not only that, but even told me that my main url of my site I used as the keywords was still spam.

So, Google I feel is hand picking the directory sites like DMOZ, etc, etc.  I also don't feel directory sites are that high of a quality in a link anyways.  What can you really say in 30 or so words about your site.

I am not saying to stay away from them all, I am just saying be very careful, because I thought they were ok to use if you picked good ones too, but it's not.

Have a great night.

MB

When your building the backlinks to your site, are you building them only to the TLD for those keywords, or are you building them to the exact urls that pertain to the keywords you specified?

I had this issue a while back as well. For example.  We built towards domainname.com/cash-loans.html, but Google after 7 months made it come up as the TLD even though we built it to that url.  In some instances, Google can mess up indexing a site correctly.

How long ago did this happen?  It took about 4-5 weeks for ours to come back to the original url we were building to.  I also feel that sometimes, it has to do with the authority of your home page over an inner page and that your home page can be easier in some instances to rank terms up.

Have a great night.

MB

I guess this would depend on many instances.  What are you selling?  What is your site about?  Which will benefit you more?  If your selling a cd of yourself and your the author then I would say go with the author.  If your selling a 1 of a kind brand that no one else in the world has, then go with the brand name.

Eventually you may want to just do both, but since your starting, it's not a bad idea to go with brand, because it will be those are considered the most natural backlinks to your site that isn't your url.

Have a great night.

MB

Hello Jordan,

I am not sure what your using, but generally just because a video was uploaded to a site doesn't mean that it creates a new sitemap, for example in WordPress if you upload a video, it will get added to an existing sitemap.  So when a search engine such as Google crawls it again, it will see the updated sitemap.  So a automatic sitemap should work fine for you, unless your using a system that generates a new sitemap for everything uploaded, I have never heard of that, but I guess it's possible.  If that's the case I am not sure at all.  Very sorry I couldn't be of more assistance to you.

Have a great day and a happy holidays.

MB

Hello Tamra,

No I don't actually.  However since the disavow is just a devalued link in their algorithm, I am not sure what the wait is for?  When Google manually analyzes your disavow list that your suppose to tell them about in your reconsideration letter, it's going to let them know that you have a list that needs devalued.

It's going to take some time for them to answer, it's going to take a while for your site to refresh they call it due to the disavow tool.  We do about 5 - 10 sites per day right now for others and found that the normal time for a refresh of data is about 3 weeks. However it all depends on the site and the amount of backlinks it has pointing to it and that your disavowing.

When your resubmitting your reconsideration letter I would personally use the lost data from majestic seo telling you how many backlinks you lost recently.  You can actually use this data to show Google how many backlinks you were able to take off of your site.  Maybe you contacted admins, maybe you didn't, etc, etc... However I have learned that it helps a lot.

So far we are 10 out of 10 in the past 10 message from Google allowing the site to get back into Google.

Get personal with Google when your writing your reconsideration letter, don't lie of course, but tell them how much your site means to you, and it's your chance at helping you get some extra income, and your really looking forward to this site so it can change your life in some way. Maybe your using it to help others?  Maybe your giving a certain amount to donations that you earn?  All of these factors if you do them can help them determine. They like personal messages I have found.

If you just write a 100 words telling them that you did what they asked and nothing else, your chances aren't as good as getting personal with them, maybe even joking, tell them you are in SEOMOZ asking others, and your very concerned about this.

Have a great night and sorry I couldn't link you to any hard concrete evidence.  I have found that there aren't to many other companies out their submitting more per day than we are, so I never looked for any evidence on the net for a time delay in submitting one.

MB

Just as a side note, I would be careful with myblogguest.  I have about 92 sites we update with their articles and allow others to post on our sites. We have been getting very low quality posts lately.  So bad that we rejected 19 articles today alone.  I feel that they aren't analyzing the content as good anymore.  Maybe they are getting understaffed and not analyzing as much as they should.

This could jeopardize the quality of sites that your writing great articles for which in the long run could hurt your site if you have 50 links pointing in from penalized domains. I am just thinking long term, this wouldn't happen overnight of course, but if they don't start passing better quality through their it won't end good for them.

If they keep passing content like they did today to my sites, I see BMR ban happening all over again from Google.

Sure guest posts are ethical, but if the sites aren't quality which ='s high quality posts and interesting content, then it's not a quality site, which means you don't have a quality link.

Have a great night.

Well SEO in my opinion is not just SEO anymore, it's marketing.  So anything that can help the process such as web design, programming, writing is important now for content issues.  SEO though is something you have to really learn on your own, by the time a college learns what it is, they can't fully teach tactics, because SEO tactics change often.

I personally have a Bach CIS degree and a Masters MISM degree.  I found that they helped me a lot. I mastered in databases, but learned web design, programming, and much more that has helped me start my own company years ago.

I would advise if your looking o get into SEO that you start trying to rank up sites yourself if you already haven't to figure out how to do it.  SEOMOZ.org is a great place to find out info from a lot of very smart people.  Your in the right place asking some good questions.  Keep it up and you will be their.

Have a great night and a happy holidays.

Just as a note I would use dynamic meta tags that pull from titles, descriptions, for your meta info for each page so you don't run into duplicate meta issues.  As for the sitemaps, that's a great question, I know there are many automated systems you can plugin to your site to auto generate sitemaps.  I wish I knew more about them.  I personally use WordPress for just about everything now, because it's easy to use and it has 1000's of useful plugins.

Have a great night.

Did you receive a message from Google for unnatural link building or a specific message in your webmasters?  If you didn't you don't actually have to submit a reconsideration request.  However if you did receive a message from them, then you can submit it right away after your disavow.  They will manually analyze everything and can see your list if they choose to take that into account for your problems you had due to a message or penalty.

Have a great day.

Hello Dr. Peter J. Meyers,

Thanks for your response to my post. I am always looking to further my educations and make some better studies. I will definitely implement this into some of our new studies and see what I find.

Thanks for the link.

Have a great night.

Your welcome.  If that was your issue and you have a lot of pages, I am sure this will help a lot.

Have a great day and happy holidays.

I have seen in some instances where sites will add iframes if they have to use duplicate content, then nofollow the iframes, and tell the robot file to ignore them so they aren't analyzed.  It works actually, but it's sloppy code having a iframe on every page sometimes multiple.  Or at least it is to me for that purpose, but I guess it's better than getting penalized for dup content.

Have a great night.

Matthew Boley

Are you referring to duplicate meta titles or actually pages that are the same>

if it is meta then I would personally setup dynamic meta tags as a quick fix.  I would then make it pull from the titles of each post , this way you will have unique meta tags and cut down on some errors quickly.  You can obviously still define the pages you want to define like your home page with manual tags instead of dynamic.

Again that is a quick fix instead of going over 1000's of pages all at once.  This is better than hiding the whole site.

Have a great night.

Matthew Boley

I wrote out a nice 1000+ words and it wouldn't allow me to post it, so I am going to make this 2nd one short lol.

To make a long story short, yes we use it for our business and have found that it works great.  We use this on 2200 + clients on a monthly basis give or take a few, I am not sure where we are at this month.

Again this all depends on the niche, site type, competitiveness of a keywords, etc...  General SEO is going to rank up low competitive keywords, mid comp keywords your going to need little of everything I talked about , and competitive keywords your going to need all of them and then some.

Take SEO services keyword for example.  Analyze why they are ranked up where they are.  I can tell you quick... 73 domains they built, AKA a network.  They then diversified it with some other low quality types so they don't get penalized for anchor text diversity issues.  They have a great platform diversity, and not to mention their class C ip span across multiple.   All 73 domains have a min authority of 40 from what I could send from a 15 min check or so.

So if I wanted to beat that site, I know 1... I need better tactics, I need to beat their social media.  I know that I need to make 80 domains that have a min of 45 authority from every page and better page rank as well... I don't believe in page rank much anymore, but it's burnt into my mind from using it for so many years.  So I buy pr + domain authority to make sure I can't go wrong... I analyze for traffic, possible keywords, niche type etc.. This all plays into factors when you build a network.

This is the method that works to rank SEO services to rank 1 in the world, because I helped do it some time ago.  Although the sites that they are using now are very low quality and it is mostly likely a rinse and repeat site and will possibly last 3 months top if they keep building more domains.

You can use a $20 domain name with some age, authority and you may as well get some page rank just to be safe.  Try to buy a domain with 50 + authority and pr3 +.  After that start some general safe link types and diversify it very good.  Build links slowly on it for about 2 months, then start building your network and bam... Page 1 rankings as easy as that.

Now for a term like payday loan in the US, it would take hacking like they are doing right now and that is very unethical and not to mention illegal.  So  would most likely go as far as the network and thats about it..

Have a great night everyone.

Matthew Boley

Keri,

That's why I said broad keywords, not specific. You need to make sure your site is setup for the broad keywords.   There is a large difference in broad and specific.

Google must know what your site is about.  I don't advise spamming a page with a 10% + density with keywords, that is why I tell everyone a 1.5% density to make sure they are safe.

I am personally not a firm believer in onpage SEO at all and really don't think it does anything anymore. If you have your title setup right, you meta tags, and you don't have anything duplicate on your site, you can rank it up.  I have ranked sites that I wasn't allowed to touch do to them being a government site with terrible url structure and I ranked them up perfectly fine with 0 SEO.  Now a domain authority of 80 probably didn't hurt, but w/e their are instances where something will work for one site and not the next.

Have a great night.  Thanks for the reply and the links to those sites.

Matthew Boley

That is correct.  I kind of look at it like this even though this may not be correct, but has worked for me.  5% of the algorithm is onpage SEO properly setup, 65 - 75% SEO offpage pending on niche type, 25-30% social media metrics.  It may not be right on, but I do hold rank 1 for payday loans right now in a popular country other than the US, so I won't complain.  We also rank for many terms for our main SEO company that are very competitive here in the US.  We did hold rank 1 for Affordable SEO until I woke up one morning and someone spammed our site with 1000's of bad links, so we have been working on getting that back up, but it happens.

Anyways have a great night and I am glad I could contribute and help.

Matthew Boley

Oh I have been this route before.  In house writers I found are a must.

You can also search the net for a tool called detox, it is a start, but after the report I highly suggest you use SEOMOZ to make sure that the tool worked correctly.   The tool helps people that need to pin point bad links out of thousands quickly.

Have a great night.

Generally our biggest mistake is not understanding our clients correctly.  Some will approach us and tell us that they need to rank terms to get traffic to their site which is normal.  Some tell us just to get traffic to their site.  We have found that we have to settle on keywords no matter what, because even if we get thousands of real visitors to a site, it really matters what keywords we are using to a client regardless if they are still relevant.  I have had clients get mad that we weren't ranking them for terms like "toys" for example for $325 a month.

We learn on a daily basis on how to better serve our customers, but something new always comes up.

Have a nice day.

Hello,

I would make a natural looking page, make sure your main/broad keywords are optimized at or around 1.0% - 1.5% density to be safe.  I would personally just get rid of the tags, because they look unnatural and that's a very old method that was used last year and many years before that.

A good rule of thumb for SEO is, if it looks unnatural then it is going to count as spam to Google as some point.  So do exactly as they want you to and build a nice looking website for a visitor.  Then after you have built it, focus on off page SEO tactics, social media marketing, local if your targeting local ads, etc.

Now if your writing a blog post, it's ok to have 1 or 2 tags per blog, that isn't a problem at all, but if you have 15 on 1 page, that is spam.

For the offpage SEO, find relevant sites to yours, or niches, then analyze them with the site explorer. If the sites have a good rating, rank, authority, etc, then link to it.  If it isn't relevant and a quality site, don't link to it.

Have a great day and a happy holidays, if you have any other questions I will be happy to try and help you out.

Matthew Boley

Just a thought as well to add to what everyone else said.  Make sure you go into your Google webmasters and tell Google what country you want them to rank up for. I have had odd instances when a site with a co.uk extension will still rank up in the US for terms even though I don't want it to.  So I advise you to set them.

Have a nice day.