What Pa and Da to Target ?
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Hi,
So when building links what PA and DA do you like to follow.
I was thinking of building links with anything more then a PA of 10 and da of 30 should be fine.
Cheers,
Vishal
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Keeping all the factors same which you mentioned and the only variable factor to compare are PA and DA then what you be your cut off numbers be as best ROI ratio in linking building?
I know you are seeking a number and, there isn't one for me. It would be easy to toss out a number but it simply would not be realistic.
The considerations for me are
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how much time and effort will I expend to obtain the link
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how much direct traffic is the link likely to offer
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does obtaining this link lay the groundwork to make it easier for link acquisition down the line? In other words, am I establishing a relationship with a topical blogger or site owner?
Another important factor, what is the PA / DA of your existing site? While I value all "good" links, if my site is just getting started then a link from a PA 10 / DA 30 site like you mentioned can be a bit helpful. If my site already has a DA of 7x, then a link from a DA 30 site is a drop in the bucket. The link can still help in many ways such as broadening the link profile, offering good anchor text, direct traffic, etc.
It's all about ensuring your link building efforts are as efficient as possible. I seek to build links from higher DA sites, but if I happen to run into a low DA site I will spend a bit of time working on obtaining a link regardless of the DA. Sometimes you will be surprised. A site owner of a low DA site might approach you and say "hey, I also run site xyz (which happens to have a much better DA)".
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Hi Ryan, I am impressed with your previous post. I never thought anyone would answer in this much detail. I understand your perspective and hence I would like to rephrase my questions to: Keeping all the factors same which you mentioned and the only variable factor to compare are PA and DA then what you be your cut off numbers be as best ROI ratio in linking building. Cheers, Vishal
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There are numerous other variables to consider when link building besides the present PA and DA.
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How many links are on the page? The more links on a page, the less value your link will receive.
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What is the page's anticipated PA? New pages have a PA of 1. It can take 60 days before it's links are discovered. I would gladly build a link on a new PA 1 page if it was a quality page on a quality site. The PA of the page is likely to shoot up.
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Is the current PA and DA real? OSE does not differentiate between "good" links and "bad" links. It only measures follow and nofollow. To the best of my knowledge, OSE does not differentiate between links in content and footer links. OSE also does not recognize links from sites in related niches versus generic or off-topic sites. It is all valued the same. I've seen some really obvious link manipulation where a site will have tons of links from chinese blog comments with PA 5x DA 7x+ pages. These links clearly boost the site's PA and DA but Google likely offers those links no value at all.
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Traffic is a great consideration. Some sites provide great content but don't think about SEO at all. Some sites are not selling anything and don't care about rankings. Others offer content to members only. Both types of sites can be gold mines for qualified traffic even if the link is never seen or valued by a search engine.
It's up to each SEO to determine what kind of link building practices they choose to use, and what type of SEO they wish to practice (white hat, black hat or grey hat). If your only concern is PA and DA, then there are tons of porn sites with great PA/DA which are available for link building.
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