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    Stolen Content reposted on other sites. How does this affect ranking?

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    • brianflannery
      brianflannery last edited by

      Visitors often copy and paste my content and post it elsewhere... on Facebook, on Tumblr, on forums and sometimes on competing websites... but they don't link to me.

      How does Google treat this duplicated content?

      What is the best way to handle it? File DCMA claims or ask them for a link?

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      • justin-brock
        justin-brock @JVRudnick last edited by

        JVRudnick, your story reminds me of this cool new site you can use to see whether the NSA are watching you: http://AreTheNSAWatchingMe.com/.

        Also reminds me of the T-shirt I wore yesterday.

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        • JVRudnick
          JVRudnick last edited by

          As usual, Egol perfectly answered...but thought I'd just add....

          That just a year ago, I did file a DMCA and eventually wound up (honest!) talking to someone from Homeland Security in the US as the firm I was after apparently was being "watched!" While I do believe we're all being watched, that experience did worry me a bit...

          My content was taken down - but by the .gov of the firm in which the owners of same lived - least that's the answer I got...if you can trust that anything you hear from the ones in charge is believeable.... <knocks on="" desk="">testing testing...you guys still listening in???

          :-)</knocks>

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          • CommT
            CommT last edited by

            I think Egol has covered it.

            We recently did a DMCA, and it was really quick. Our case was cut and dried though, we're financial services so have to hold a record of everything we publish for our regulator so it was really easy to prove. I did dob the other company in to iStock photo as well though because they are still showing an image we paid for and it's cropped exactly the same as the way our designer did it so we can only assume the other company did steal it.

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            • KeriMorgret
              KeriMorgret @EGOL last edited by

              As long as it wasn't that boss of yours forcing you to work!

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              • EGOL
                EGOL @KeriMorgret last edited by

                This question was about one of my personal rants.  I couldn't help myself.  🙂

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                • KeriMorgret
                  KeriMorgret @EGOL last edited by

                  It's Labor Day weekend. Shouldn't you be chasing down a BBQ grill and a beer instead of Q&A questions EGOL? 🙂

                  Appreciate your thoughtful answers on a holiday weekend!

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                  • EGOL
                    EGOL last edited by

                    Visitors often copy and paste my content and post it elsewhere...

                    Congratulations!   You must have great content!

                    ... but they don't link to me.

                    Those weasels!

                    This happens with my content a lot.  It makes me mad.

                    How does Google treat this duplicated content?

                    They claim that they know where the content originated, but they are either overestimatin' their abilities or just lyin' about them.   Some people will argue in Google's favor but they don't know what they are talkin' about.  (If you are one of these people, I'll not argue with you, you can keep belivin' it.  I know I am right.)

                    What is the best way to handle it? File DCMA claims or ask them for a link?

                    These weasels probably don't have public whois and no contact info on their website.  If they do have contact info on their website it is probably phony.

                    If you can send them a message (and a human reads it) the message will probably be ignored, maybe even laughed at.  If you get a reply it will probably be the verbal equivalent of being flipped off.  Some people just don't understand copyright.  Some people understand copyright or are located where they can abuse the copyright of people in your country.  They have built a business out of stealing your content and mine.  They often have thousands of websites with your content and mine. They are making tons of munny.

                    If you file a DCMA, you better have absolute knowledge that the content truly belongs to you and that they are not displaying it under a valid "fair use", because they can sue you if you play this the wrong way.

                    The remaining people who steal your content, just don't know that they are stealing.  They think that anything on the web is fair game.  A lot of the stolen content is on legit websites.  They hired an SEO who hired someone else, in a country where copyright is not thought about, and they grabbed your content, slapped it on somebody's website and said that they wrote it just for the client.

                    Good luck.  Be careful.  Find a way to keep the blood pressure down.  Buy a punchin' bag.    My experience is, chasing weasels only gets you tired, most of them are only out after dark and you will never find them.

                    So, you can see that I think that this is harmful and it is really hard to do anything about it.

                    ADDED:  Got so busy in my rant I forgot to answer....

                    How does this affect ranking?

                    If you have a healthy, vigorous site, having a few pieces of stolen content on other websites will probably not hurt you if they are weak websites.  However, it can tank your rankings if the content is on strong websites - stronger than yours.  Also, it can kill your rankings if it is on lots of weak websites.

                    Examples:

                    I was selling some products that were made in China.  My content got grabbed by hundreds of Chinese websites publishing in English.  My rankings tanked.  Tanked.  The result was that I gave thousands of dollars worth of outdoor gear to Goodwill.

                    I had several articles about commodities (like what is traded on exchanges).  They ranked in the top three of google for searches on those commodities.  Tens of thousands (I am not joking) of spam commodities websites grabbed my articles or pieces of my articles and republished them.  My articles disappeared from google even though I had held those great rankings for a couple of years and they were on PR6 pages.  Fortunately, they have recently returned to good rankings and I am making money from them again but lost great revenue for a couple of years.

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