Ranking above Auth domains question?
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Hi,
How difficult would it be to rank a new page above the likes of Wiki, About, Squidoo etc?
I have a keyword I would like rank but most of the domains on first page are the likes of the above, wiki, about, squidoo etc.
The pages themselves dont have a high Page Auth its just the root domain.
Will it still be very hard to rank above these types of sites?
Cheers
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I have seen some pretty crazy rankings from EMD's, I believe if you had these on your side, it would be A LOT easier to beat them.
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i also find it is really hard to beat them in some keywords. even though amazon.es is a new to spanish market. already they are getting pretty good ranking. which we cant get.
the domain authority thing is so ridiculous
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Cheers for the in-depth reply, all noted.
It will be a case of a whole site targeting 1 term against the 1 page on the high Auth sites.
I have once beat direct.gov (100% DA), which had the first 2 results taken by this site, but it did take over 1000 words of unique content, about 100 facebook likes, 4-5 guest posts and a exact match domain,
I can do all the above again apart from having the EMD, I just got a feeling the EMD played the biggest part :(.
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I agree with Egol here. Quality content can beat these kinds of sites in the SERPs. If the pages don't have that high a Page Authority then you stand a good chance with a solid opage of good content with a couple of sdecent links pointing at the respective page.
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Wiki and About can be hard to beat. Amazon and eBay can be hard to beat in the retail SERPs.
It is possible to beat them. I beat them on many good keywords and they are beating me on many good keywords.
Here are the two situations where I have success beating them....
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When I have a page on an established domain where my content is clearly a LOT BETTER than their content. I can't name one keyword where I beat them with lower quality content. Usually when I beat them my content is an article that is.... "the first page of information that a person should read about that topic".
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When I have an entire website about a topic that competes against their single page about that topic.
Neither of the two situations above guarantees that you will beat them. I have sites that have hundreds - even thousands of pages that are all about a topic with many articles, videos, .pdfs and more that are clearly superior - 100 times over for that topic - than wiki, amazon and about, however they simply have so much domain authority that unquestionably superior content - in enormous depth - can not beat them.
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