Best Way to Consolidate Domains/Rankings After Purchase of Competitor
-
One of my customers is buying a competitor. The competitor has a site that usually ranks just 1-2 spots below the main site that we manage for them (our site has been up for about a year, and their's is 15-years old).
I am wondering what is the best way to consolidate the rankings/websites to take advantage of the purchase of the competitor's web assets. I would love to leave both sites up and just get 2 top-25 links to our products, but with no more marketing being done under the competitor's name, I assume their rankings will degrade.
Would a basic 301 re-direct on a page-by-page basis be enough to 'steal' all of the juice their domain name/site has built? Is there some other method of using an older domain to boost the rankings of a newer one (I am assuming they only rank as well as we do because of how long they've been active - all of our metrics are better than theirs across the board).
Thanks for any help/advice the community here can provide!
-
I dont know, but yes logic tell me its more important how long a website has been operating than a domain name has existed.
But i still say it means little compaired to the links.
It could also be that they may discount the links of a site that they know has changed hands, Thats why i would suggest moving links bit by bit.
-
But wouldn't (or couldn't) there be a distinct difference between the age of a domain and the age of website existing on that domain?
-
Google aquired a registration business, so they have the data, but really, domain age is small change.
-
I like the suggestion of leaving it up for a little while to gain some data, there is a lot of wisdom in that.
As for covering our back, both our site and the competitor rank near the top/middle of page 2 currently, so someone else moving up behind us is not much of a concern.
-
Well, what if we don't change the registrant info? Since we are acquiring the entire company, there would be no harm in leaving the reg. data as-is. It makes sense for search engines to treat newly acquired domains just like new domains, to discourage the purchase and pillaging of defunct, but long-lived domains/websites,
I can see the domain registration info having just a little to no impact, but if Google can see the index history and track that a site has been in consistent operation for 10+ years, that should be a positive in its favor, no? Logically, I think longevity is a positive trait, though I have absolutely no evidence, other than anecdotal, that SEs agree.
-
Good point about covering your back.
There may be many other reasons to buy a compeditor, but as far as SEO goes, i would look at the links and see if I want them (where are they comming from) and can i use them (are they relevant to my pages.)
-
I believe Matt Cutts said, somthing like
if everthing else is equal, then the older domain will win, but its on line 100 of the algorithm.
and remember they also know if it has changed hands, they have registration details. If you were a working at google a you see a domain has changed hands, would you still consider it old?
-
I am wondering what is the best way to consolidate the rankings/websites to take advantage of the purchase of the competitor's web assets.
Do not make quick decisions with shallow data.
When I have purchased other sites I run them for a while to see what kind of traffic they are making and what easy things I can do to kick it up. If you are a better webmaster than the last guy you might be able to double traffic and double conversions in one afternoon. Then you have a better idea of the site's potential.
Also, how much money is that site making compared to yours?
How much does content overlap?
How much more or less keyword reach does other site have?
If you redirect will the extra power push you up the rankings or is the power all coming from the same sources?
If you hold #1 and #2 with your old site then why redirect the #3 and #4 site to allow real competitor to move up from #5 and #6? That second site is covering your back!
Would a basic 301 re-direct on a page-by-page basis be enough to 'steal' all of the juice their domain name/site has built?
Maybe. Maybe Not. It will steal juice only if the redirected site adds link diversity to target site. If all of the links are duplicated then you gain zero - and just wasted a good site that might have made money .
...their site is 15-years old...
If you consume that site... you might eliminate a LOT of customer loyalty.
Like I said above there are more things to think about than SEO.
-
I know that age is not supposed to have an effect, but it sure seems to. I see a ton of CRAP sites that outrank solid optimized ones, and the only consistent factor I see (in my limited experience) is that the old site has been around for 10+ years. I totally understand the argument that they've had more time to established a deeper web presence, but when the new site has 3,000 incoming links and higher mRank and mTrust, and the older one has 350 links, without an appreciable difference in the quality of those links, it makes me wonder...
Will 301-ing the old pages (the sites' architectures match up fairly well, so I don't anticipate major problems) basically stack the quality numbers (with, I assume, a little bit of fall-off), or will it be less impactful than that?
-
Hi David,
Contrary to popular belief, a domain's age does not influence rankings. All things being equal, a 1 year old domain can rank equally well to a 15 year old domain. An older domain has had more time to earn links, earn direct traffic and otherwise be recognized by users. Older domain names are often friendly and cleaner since the pool of unique domain names has been depleted over time. A video which may help: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pnpg00FWJY
My suggestions for your acquired site would be as follows:
-
map each page on the acquired site to the most relevant page on the current site, then perform a 301 redirect
-
if a page on the acquired site does not have an equivalent page on the current site, consider migrating the page to the new site.
-
ensure your site has a quality 404 page. The 404 page should offer your site's navigation, a search function, a simple "page not found" message, and possibly a link to your most popular content
-
track your 404s. After this type of migration I recommend tracking your 404 errors daily. Understand the referrer (source) of the error and decide if this issue should be resolved by either adding a 301 or contacting the webmaster and requesting the link be adjusted.
I am assuming they only rank as well as we do because of how long they've been active - all of our metrics are better than theirs across the board
I would not make that assumption. There are many ranking factors. All the user metrics such as time on site, bounce rate, CTR, etc. can affect ranking and we do not have access to that data. Additionally there are many Panda factors which can affect ranking but many SEOs do not consider. For example, your site may not have TRUSTe whereas your competitor's site does. It's possible Google has learned that users trust sites more which offer the TRUSTe badge, and therefore it is a positive influence on rankings.
Overall I think you are on the right track. The only other thing you can do is to contact the webmasters of sites which link to the old competitor's site, explain the merger and share the updated link.
Good luck.
-
-
Domain age mean little, and if you change owners it may as well as be new.
I would do the 301 as you say, but not page by page, but link by link, look at the linking page and the link text, not the page it was linking to.
Matt Cutts suggests doing to bit by bit, maybe every week do so many.
Got a burning SEO question?
Subscribe to Moz Pro to gain full access to Q&A, answer questions, and ask your own.
Browse Questions
Explore more categories
-
Moz Tools
Chat with the community about the Moz tools.
-
SEO Tactics
Discuss the SEO process with fellow marketers
-
Community
Discuss industry events, jobs, and news!
-
Digital Marketing
Chat about tactics outside of SEO
-
Research & Trends
Dive into research and trends in the search industry.
-
Support
Connect on product support and feature requests.
Related Questions
-
Why would a newly created site, have ranked ahead of our site for keyword that we are optimized for?
This newly created site has a DA of 1 and PA of 1, no backlinks, no optimized urls, the keyword they ranked better than us on was listed a total of 6 times on the homepage. Our PA is 29 and DA is 18 for the page that ranks for this keyword. They really copied a few elements of our site but made sure to change a few things, but also list at the bottom of their site 5 keywords that are crucial to our niche industry but they're all linking to the same page. Any ideas? It's an SEO guy running the site, we've watched them toy with adwords trying to be number 1, but not liking the price, so they are here and there with it. Mainly I don't see why they'd rank better for this keyword, we our site have prolly 500% more content that's both of quality and relevance to our customers, in the form of Pdfs, infographics, help sections, and video. Very baffled here, any advice would rock!
Competitive Research | | Deacyde1 -
What's the value of Exact Match Keyword Domains vs. Company Name Domains?
Hey Mozers, I was in a discussion this morning about the value of Exact Match Keyword domains vs. a company name domain and wanted to get a little more clarification. Let's say we are doing a site for a company called Favored Dental, and they have had the domain favoredental.com for quite a while and have their authority built up in it. Is it better to have favored-dental.com or favoreddental.co or keep its current form? The reasoning behind the alternate domains would be they have the exact match keyterm, in this case lets say "Favored Dental" is the keyterm we were going after. To my knowledge EMDs aren't as relevant as they'd use to be as Google would rather branding of companies instead of keyterm domains? Is this correct, or do EMDs of keywords you're going after hold higher authority? Thanks for the clarification!
Competitive Research | | MonsterWeb280 -
How on earth is this site ranking so highly?
I'm trying (& struggling) to rank for the keyword property in italy. Yet in the past 5 weeks I've seen this site -- betterpropertyitaly (dot) com -- rocket from about #30 to #2 for the keyword and am trying to figure out why. The obvious is that it's in the domain name, but that can't be the be-all-and-end-all, surely? It's a 2 yr 9 mth old site, so why the sudden spurt? I look in Open Site Explorer and the metrics look pretty weak: Domain Authority: 17 Page Authority: 29 Linking Root Domains: 9 Absolutely zero social shares. Good luck to him and all -- but I'm trying to figure out what he's doing right and I'm not. My site apart, he's beating some pretty big-hitters.
Competitive Research | | Jeepster0 -
Slight keyword variation domain name
I have recently changed a clients domain name from a long (23 characters) to a shorter domain name that has a keyword plus a single character variation. For example and without revealing the clients real domain name, let say they are in housing. Ithe first letter in the company name is "p" so i created the doamin name as www.phousing.com It has only been two days since i submitted the new domain name and did a 301 redirect to the new page. When i do a google search i get back the result: housing.com and "did you mean housing.com Will this domain name cause me problems? Any input is greatly appreciated!
Competitive Research | | WebbyNabler0 -
What if your content is way better than competitors?
Do you have any suggestions if you are being outranked by competitors even though your page has way better content and better links?
Competitive Research | | Charlessipe0 -
Best Link Analysis Tool?
Now that the Yahoo Site Explorer is not usable on sites unless they are in your Bing Webmaster Tools, what is the best tool out there to see an accurate list of inbound links to a site? Google tools are still pretty unreliable from what I can see...
Competitive Research | | Bandicoot0 -
Competitor analysis
Hi This is obviously a well worn question (I've read the great blog by Sam Crocker last year - see below), but I'm looking for an updated set of opinions on sources of competitor data. The competitor data I'm interested in is traffic volumes either aggregated or disaggregated by referral source (i.e. organic search, PPC, email, social etc.). The types of data I've checked so far are Google Trends for websites (no disaggregation), Alexa (some good sources of free data) and Experian's Hitwise (too expensive for my current needs). In addition I'm aware that Compete will be providing an interface for such data in the UK in January at reasonable rates for what I'm after. I'm interested in views on these and other sources in relation to experience of their relative accuracy, costs, pros, con etc. Ideally I'm looking for something that is free, comprehensive, and is not being used by the competition - is that too much to ask!!! 😉 Any inputs would be greatly appeciated. Thanks in advance! Neil Sam's great blog: http://www.seomoz.org/blog/monitor-competitor-traffic
Competitive Research | | mccormackmorrison0 -
Theoretical Canonical Query/Test
This is just a general discussion on your thoughts on this - maybe some tests have been done, but I haven't found any. Suppose I have document X If I put document X on high authority website A - It comes in SE position 1 for Keyword Z If I put document X on low authority website B - It comes in SE position 10 for Keyword Z What happens (if anything) if I put document X on website A and include a canonical tag to point to document X on website B. What SE position would document Z on website B now come for Keyword Z ??
Competitive Research | | James770