Disavow or not? Negative SEO
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Since last November we have been receiving a lot of low quality backlinks from over 700 websites.
It looks like one of our pages from our website has been copied with the links being kept as they are. I have left a link to an example of this here: https://goo.gl/eWQODJ Please note, all examples seem to be copied in the same way.
We have also started seeing a decrease in the amount of organic traffic (Analytics Picture), As you can see the decrease is not yet so drastically high, but it is still a decrease and this is the third consecutive month we have seen this decrease.
Do you think it is worth it to use Disavow tool for all of these bad link or not?
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Funnily, I saw this topic pop up yesterday on twitter. The advice is to still disavow:
http://searchengineland.com/google-responds-mass-negative-seo-extortion-emails-200689
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Disavow is a powerful tool and using it is something you should be certain of, but it sounds like it would be the right choice in your case.
The disavow file is something you should always keep on top of; it's better to add 2 or 3 domains so that you can attribute results to changes made than adding 700 domains at once as it may be more difficult to pin point exactly which domains affected you negatively.
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You can also file DMCA against the sites that are stealing the content - and if they are running Adsense ads, complain there too while you are at it.
If there are a lot of sites copying this content you can easily file DMCA reports rapid-fire using the "Copyright Removal" form in your Search Console.
https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/dmca-dashboard
Fill out the form, submit, use the back button, change a couple lines of the form and submit again. Adsense complains can be filed by clicking the information link in the ad and navigating to the complaint form. Very easy to file these quickly too.
Before you start filing DMCA rapid fire, and getting their adsense turned off, be sure you have a clear understanding of copyright law. Google is required to tell them "who done it". That means that the website owner is going to get your name as the person who had their site whacked. They can sue you if you are making wildass complaints. One meeting with an IP attorney to explain your situation and hear his/her cautions might be adequate.
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Hello there!
If you are the responsible for that site SEO and you spot potential harm in those backlinks then you should not wait to disavow them.
Keep in mind that it is possible that the keyword dropping might no be because of those backlinks only, I do suggest you to do a full check in that site SEO.Best luck.
GR.
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