Is there a better keyword tool than google's adwords keyword tool?
-
I have heard a lot of people say not to trust the results of google adword's keyword tool. Is there a better tool out there that i am not aware of that can judge local monthly and global monthly search volume?
-
Google don't give exact numbers and don't get specific about what the numbers do represent, but it is very handy to compare phrases - which is more popular, etc. - in deciding which to use on your site. The main reason why I didn't Wordtracker a few years ago was that I needed to know usage based on location and, as far as I know, Google is the only one that can give that kind of detail.
-
I realize you posted this almost a year ago, so my reply is going to seem random. I found this thread through a search because right now I'm considering trying Wordtracker's paid keyword research tool and wondering whether it's worth the money. I use AdWords right now, but sometimes I question the results for the exact reason you mentioned.
Anyway, I just wanted to ask: In your experience, is Wordtracker's paid tool better than AdWords for keyword research?
Thanks and sorry this is so out-of-the-blue.
-
I find Google Adwords a great tool for the most part.
One thing I have noticed though is Google Places is being tweaked almost daily and some days a keyword I'm chasing will be #1,2,3 organically but is so far down the first page behind all the Google Places listings that chasing that keyword is next to useless (unless they rearrange Google Places again).
Learn from my mistake- do your keyword research and then Google the term when you're logged out!
-
I read that the google keyword tool is only applicable to their paid results. I was finding completely different results when using the wordtracker keyword tool.
-
But i do face some weird data from Google Adword tool yesterday. For 2 most generic Japanese keywords ラップトップ(meaning laptop) & ノートパソコン(meaning notebook), I searched both exact & broad in Japan country and Japanese language, Google adword gave me no result for exact & broad ラップトップsearch and no result for exact ノートパソコン. This result makes no sense to me at all. Have anyone come cross this before?
-
For a time (October-December 2010, if not earlier), the AdWords Keyword Tool was ignoring keywords that were not commercial in nature, and there was much outcry from the community. For the following two links, the first link is from when they removed non-commercial intent and lists several keyword alternatives. The second post is an update, with information about how Google has improved their keyword tool. This may be one of the reasons you've heard people say not to trust the results.
http://www.aimclearblog.com/2010/10/07/r-i-p-google-keyword-tool-long-live-seo/
http://www.aimclearblog.com/2010/12/21/safe-for-seo-hacking-fixed-google-keyword-tool/
-
thank you for pointing out our mistake.
cheers,
storwell
-
Thumbs up!
I have heard lots of people complain about the tool giving high numbers and then when you point out that they are looking at broad match numbers they realize their error.
-
Are you checking broad or exact match phrases?
car insurance and insurance car are equal because these are broad match types
[car insurance] and [insurance car] are very different because these are exact match types
Numbers are rounded in order to make them easier to read and manage. 195,000 is easier to read than 194,793 and that slight difference doesn't really matter. Same with 590 and 587.
The "reliable source" you linked is a forum where an unknown person posted a message. That is not something I would rely on. Read more about SERP CTR and check your website's data and you will see that the numbers are roughly correct.
-
Probably because they've realized this and act accordingly. take adwords keyword volumes with a grain of salt. or perhaps they have another tool to cross reference??
-
I'm sure there are other sources, i don't have the time to dig them all up. I'm actually kind of shocked that you guys have never heard someone say that google adwords keyword tool's estimated search volumes are inflated.
How about the fact that most of the numbers are rounded. and that two word phrases are always estimated at the exact same value.
for example: it would say that the global monthly searches for "word1 word2" is the same as "word2 word1", for any combination of two words. I find that incredibly hard to believe because it is very unlikely that there is exactly a 50% split between them. what about phrases where it is much more logical that the order is word1 word2, instead of word2 word1?
-
There're researches about the SERP CTRs and sometimes I compare these research values to my websites' traffic data. I haven't experienced major differences between the Keyword Tool's and my websites' results, it seems to be accurate.
Can you give us a reliable source of information for these claims?
-
If that is the case then why isn't every adwords marketer on the planet yelling about it?
I don't hear them.
-
I know that yahoo used to have a keyword resarch tool, where did that go? i can't find it anywhere anymore, all the links to it are dead. even a link from their own website to it is dead.
Is it absorbed into microsoft now?
-
I disagree. It isn't entirely in their best interests to provide entirely accurate search volume information. In fact it is much more exciting to see that a keyword has 5000 monthly searches than to see a keyword only has 5 monthly searches. It is entirely in their best interest to inflate the search volumes, as it encourages more sales from novice users that don't realize their numbers are inflated.
-
EGOL has a way of sharing the answer is such a short, to the point and yet well polished manner. I whole-heartedly agree!
-
Who but Google could provide better information about Google? And, since Google is going to make money from your ads they should do their best to direct you to the proper keywords.
Got a burning SEO question?
Subscribe to Moz Pro to gain full access to Q&A, answer questions, and ask your own.
Browse Questions
Explore more categories
-
Moz Tools
Chat with the community about the Moz tools.
-
SEO Tactics
Discuss the SEO process with fellow marketers
-
Community
Discuss industry events, jobs, and news!
-
Digital Marketing
Chat about tactics outside of SEO
-
Research & Trends
Dive into research and trends in the search industry.
-
Support
Connect on product support and feature requests.
Related Questions
-
G's Keyword Planner - 800 kw limit on search volume results?
I'm trying to use Google's Keyword Planner to pull the search volume for a large list of keywords (2000+). While you're able to upload a CSV of up to 3000 keywords, the search volume search only returns a maximum of 800 keywords per query, which is an issue as I have no idea which keywords it's cutting out. Is there any way around this? I have looked around online, but haven't been able to find a solid solution. Thanks in advance!
Keyword Research | | RCDesign740 -
Keyword Research for country not listed by Google
Hello everyone, I have a client in a country that is not listed in Google. Effectively there is no adwords data available... how do I perform keyword research for such a country. Any suggestions will be really helpful. Regards,
Keyword Research | | MTalhaImtiaz0 -
Keyword limit??
So is it right we are only allowed 300 keywords across all campaigns? if this is right how are we suppose to work with this? is there a way to make it higher?
Keyword Research | | OasisLandDevelopment0 -
Competitive keyword ranking
Hi, I'm checking the SEOMoz keyword rankings report. I've set about 30 keywords and it's awesome to see how they rank and how many times they were clicked. However it would be interesting to see whether the keywords that I entered are competitive or not. It's not worth putting a lot of energy in making non competitive words rank higher I guess. So my question is: is it possible to see whether or not ranked keywords are competitive or not? Thanks!
Keyword Research | | webctp0 -
What's the difference between broad and exact match in Google's keyword research tool?
The exact match option shows you much smaller numbers. And Google's explanation of each isn't comprehensive. Can someone explain the difference between the two with examples? Also, which one is it better to target while doing SEO research?
Keyword Research | | davhad0 -
Keywords and Rank Checker Tool
Two questions about checking the rank of keywords. The easiest way to say this is by example. I have a keyword that SEOMOZ ranks on google in the 32nd position but when I look for that keyword in Google it's nowhere to be found (it's buried deep in the results pages somewhere). Where does SEOMOZ get its keyword results from? How do I non-localize my browser so I can see "global" keyword results? Is there such a thing? thanks in advance.
Keyword Research | | dpdeleon10 -
Is there a Meta tag or Keyword Generator tool that I can use on SEMOZ ?
I need to identify a tool within SEMOZ that can automatically generate Keywords and Meta tags.
Keyword Research | | sherohass0 -
Keywords and the role of 'in', 'for', 'to' and plurals
Hi there, I wonder if you can help. Google's keyword tool lists each of these keywords separately with its own Local Monthly Volume count: flats to rent in London flats to rent London flats for rent in London flats for rent London flat to rent in London flat to rent London flat for rent in London flat for rent London I'd rather not create 8 separate pages for this, which I think will be poor for the user and limit the range of keywords i can target. So my main question is: what should I do? a) How important is 'in'? Will a page written for 'flats to rent in London' do well against the 'flats to rent London'? b) The same for plurals: if I'm writing 'flats to rent' will it rank against 'flat to rent'? c) The same for 'to' and 'for': If i'm writing 'flats to rent in London' will it rank against 'flats for rent in London?' Thanks in advance dan
Keyword Research | | danfk0