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    • randfish
      randfish last edited by

      Have you had success with any particular methodologies that you'd recommend?

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      • NickSamuel
        NickSamuel @anthony-305442 last edited by

        I suppose you're correct but it's all relative to the keyword in question, isn't it?

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        • Nexa
          Nexa Subscriber Banned @Talooma last edited by

          Nice Workaround 🙂

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          • Angelos_Savvaidis
            Angelos_Savvaidis last edited by

            Oh well call me a joke if you want but nothing comes in my mind except lmgtfu.com 🙂

            The best way to push someone button... Actually push the button... literally...

            http://lmgtfy.com/?q=literally+push+the+button....

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            • NikolasNikolaou
              NikolasNikolaou last edited by

              I guess a good "trick" in my opinion would be to create a contest and promote it through image sharing sites like pinterest, tumblr, or youtube , facebook and any other social site or method you can get traffic from with an attention grabbing image * reshare to win * and stating the contest as a search a term contest (no link at all) to check out the prizes .Freebies always seem to drive crazy traffic, why not use it to your advantage as a influence on search suggest.

              Another influence I use to build brand awareness and in a way search suggest is stating the company/website name (semi emd though) instead of a link.

              I think that some people don't seem to get the methodology of Seo, creating virality and building a brand. It has to stand out from classic onpage optimisation and offpage link building. THINK OUT OF THE BOX.

              The one thing that gave me an edge as a marketer in my industry when I first started on ( a revenue sharing site ) was a variation of a industry keyword that I built up from >10 searches monthly up to 4400 exact match searches monthly (singular phrase) and 1300 exact match (plural) the long tail is even more in less than 9 months by posting about recommendations for those products in industry relative forums building up in a way my "own" keyword .

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              • Yoav_Vilner
                Yoav_Vilner last edited by

                White hat methods: Pay for a commercial via TV or radio to convince people to search for your brand+positive keyword.

                Ask all of your family, friends or colleagues to search for "your brand+positive keyword".

                Co-operate with bloggers and online partners to search for "your brand+positive keyword".

                Start a social campaign (FB contest or PPC) to convince people to search for "your brand+positive keyword".

                black hat methods - sadly some people take advantage of black hat methods on this one, such as paying for AOL's Mechanical Turks system.

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                • Talooma
                  Talooma @Syed1 last edited by

                  There was a very clever Adwords campaign by Converse. Used Adwords very intelligently.

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                  • skehoe
                    skehoe Subscriber @wrttnwrd last edited by

                    Great idea your friend had.

                    I too have a friend who successfully changed Google suggest by indexing pages on a variety of websites & news distribution channels for more desirable keywords.

                    I have noticed if you don't teach Google what to suggest then it will sometimes offer 'negative' suggestions even if there is no content to be found.  To avoid a 'crisis' you a best off choosing your own keywords and teach google what is relevant and what is not 🙂

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                    • Danapollo
                      Danapollo Subscriber last edited by

                      I know this is an old feed - but on the subject of influencing the 'Search Suggest'... has anyone played the 'LogosQuiz' game on the iPhone - if not, hear me out, because it is interesting (I think...)!

                      The game is pretty simple, you've just got to guess company logos. However, you are able to obtain hints - and these hints come in the form of full sentences.

                      Now then, I was stuck on a few of these last night and thought I'd ping one of the 'hints' over to google. I literally got 2 words into it and the FULL hint (about 10 words) was suggested (something about computer software manufacturer on east coast of somewhere or other...).

                      I know this isn't about 'how' to influence the Search Suggest - but just look at how powerful the 'social sphere' is when a game like this is able to have such control over the suggestions (they're missing the trick with marketing though, because the game developers don't rank for the hints!).

                      Just thought I'd share that with you guys - something a little light-hearted and kinda fun!

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                      • KeriMorgret
                        KeriMorgret @wrttnwrd last edited by

                        Ian, thanks so much for sharing that experience from a friend of yours. Great to see you here in Q&A!

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                        • wrttnwrd
                          wrttnwrd last edited by

                          I'm late to this particular party, but here's an approach that's worked for us  helped a friend in reputation management crises:

                          First, you need to get some indexed content for the phrase you're going to insert into suggest. I'll go with "Gibble Gibbet".

                          1. Add a page to your own site;
                          2. Or even better, find a phrase for which you already have indexed content.
                          3. Either way, get some Twitter/other social traffic going to ensure it stays indexed.

                          Now, you need to get some search volume:

                          1. Don't think of this in terms of directly generating search volume. Instead, think of this as a social engineering experiment.
                          2. Determine what phrase you want to show up in search suggest. I'm sticking with "Gibble Gibbet".
                          3. Create a test on a service like Amazon Mechanical Turk. Tell everyone involved you need them to tell you the first 2 results they see when they type in "Gibble Gibbet".
                          4. Send out the test to 5,000 or more people.

                          Depending on the term, the search volume around it, and the competition among different queries, this should get you what you're looking for.

                          Not that I've ever done this.

                          It was a friend of mine.

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                          • riplash
                            riplash @Dan-Petrovic last edited by

                            I've noticed more and more companies doing this on TV advertising campaigns of late - instead of giving out a campaign specific URL, as was the done thing maybe 2-5 years ago, companies are increasingly likely to give a specific search term out.

                            I wondered about the motives behind it, and recognised that this may be one of them.

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                            • nyanainc
                              nyanainc @Goetzman last edited by

                              Thanks for sharing your opinion Syed! I like active members on seomoz!

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                              • nyanainc
                                nyanainc @Dr-Pete last edited by

                                what is the Mechanical turk?

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                                • scodtt
                                  scodtt @CharlesMontgomery last edited by

                                  That link goes to a godaddy holding page...

                                  I did go and search "is " and google suggested "Is Daniel Tosh gay?" I've never heard of Mr. Tosh, but there you have it.

                                  So I went through the alphabet, it's actually pretty funny:

                                  "Is Anderson Cooper gay?"

                                  "Is Brenda Song pregnant" (I've never heard of her, either.)

                                  "Is croup contagious?"

                                  Then the one about Mr. Tosh, and after that "Is Darrenn Criss gay?" (I don't know him, either. Jeesh, I must be old.)

                                  And on it goes with lots of questions about people being gay or pregnant. O was my favortie, "Is oatmeal gluten free?"

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                                  • scodtt
                                    scodtt @Goetzman last edited by

                                    Is it possible for that to actually work? I really doubt it.

                                    It seems like Google would figure it out after a while that only people in India are behaving that way, and given that Google localizes results it would only help in India.

                                    Also, how can you be sure that the MTurk people are actually doing what you ask? They aren't providing you a product, they are just searching in some specific way. Every time I've used MTurk I've gotten work product that shows the minimum possible amount of work. If I used them for something that I don't get back I wouldn't have any trust that they are actually doing it.

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                                    • BrianCrouch
                                      BrianCrouch last edited by

                                      I hope they were that intentional, but I  wonder if their Marcom team just thought the simplicity of the call to action might get more results than yet another website to be ignored.

                                      What I mean is, a CTA like "google XYZ"  might get a slight percentage advantage of people above and beyond the response rate on the direct entry of a company URL. Besides, most people tend to Google a brand name to get to their website anyway, rather than enter it in browser....

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                                      • Jenni_HeartInternet
                                        Jenni_HeartInternet @jest last edited by

                                        You could also use it in a situation where you're ranking highly for a term but it's not currently showing in Google Suggest.

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                                        • Greenman
                                          Greenman last edited by

                                          I can tell you what can not influence the results of the Google Search Suggest. Just check that the keywords are not displayed sorted by search volume. Take a look at pic. The solution? Content

                                          CpN1f

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                                          • SuperlativB
                                            SuperlativB @Dan-Petrovic last edited by

                                            I believe this would work for radio, twitter, facebook or display ads aswell. You just cook up a funny consept and go for it. Would be the same practice as for linkbait wouldnt you say?

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                                            • JustDucky
                                              JustDucky @jest last edited by

                                              Jest - It's not necessarily the volume of traffic but the quality of the traffic.  Most of these auto-completed (or "suggested") searches contain long tail terms which indicate the user is much more likely to convert to a customer.   My $ .02

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                                              • StevenMapes
                                                StevenMapes last edited by

                                                To influence it what you need is a term, short-tailed or long-tailed it does not matter, that has at least some CTR.  It doesn't need to be large, 10 a month is more than enough. Then, with this CTR in place, the auto-suggest is influenced by sheer search volumes.  If you track your it you'll see that it takes about between a day and two days for the searches to filter through to auto-suggest. It's pretty much in-line with Insights.

                                                If a keyword has a good history then its more likely to stay in the auto-suggest even if another term trends in the shor-term.  To influence it use social media to get people to search or run competitions etc to suggest people to search.
                                                Pure search volume without CTR will not work. You could fire 10 million searches a day for two weeks it won't appear if there is no CTR.

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                                                • BrianCrouch
                                                  BrianCrouch @CharlesMontgomery last edited by

                                                  Fascinating... If I had to pick the hardest kind of word to be able to manipulate on Instant, it would be a two letter verb! Maybe only a personal pronoun would be harder!

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                                                  • BrianCrouch
                                                    BrianCrouch @jest last edited by

                                                    The last time you used Google and it auto-suggested a result, you saw those terms/keywords. That impression may not have been tracked, but think of how useful that could be for branding. You type in "ACME" and you see "Acme Rubberbands."
                                                    Now you've associated the product with the brand whereas you may not have before, and you may well have been prompted to navigate to that search query.

                                                    It's also relevant to reputation management. If you've got a negative suggested query, you'd want to suppress that.

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                                                    • jest
                                                      jest @Dr-Pete last edited by

                                                      I don't get it, why would you want to influence Google search suggest/auto-complete? Can you provide an example of how you could get more traffic for this?

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                                                      • anthony-305442
                                                        anthony-305442 last edited by

                                                        I know that the number of searches required to get into autosuggest is quite small. Because my cousin's business whom I'm the webmaster for, is all over it.  And we get like 20 visitors a day...

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                                                        • JamesNorquay
                                                          JamesNorquay last edited by

                                                          The best ethical strategy is to use offline media buys to influence the search pattern of users. Working in big agencies where you have combined teams working on various verticals it is some times hard to leverage SEO into the mix, yet once SEO is at the forefront of these campaigns you can really work wonders.

                                                          I have not really seen any killer examples of this in play yet, but many companies in AUS are trying these methods.

                                                          As Dejan SEO said you just need to get the right messaging in play.

                                                          Regards,

                                                          James Norquay

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                                                          • zoicaremus
                                                            zoicaremus last edited by

                                                            • Check all suggestions for your keyword by using the alphabet:

                                                            targeted keyword a

                                                            targeted keyword ab

                                                            targeted keyword ac

                                                            • Extract all the questions about your keywords

                                                            • Write articles containing clear and straight to the point answers, especially for the questions that have elements that need to be remembered and start ranking for them.

                                                            • At the end of each article write this: "If you found the information here useful please bookmark this article or remember to search on Google for "this suggestion"

                                                            And voila, in time you will see more and more people remember how to search and thus raise the popularity of those questions in the Google suggestions. You did not exploit or inflate anything - besides your visitor's mind! Haha.

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                                                            • Mr.Rangen
                                                              Mr.Rangen @Dr-Pete last edited by

                                                              I hope that works for +1 button clicks as well! Makes sense though if it truly does just reflect popular search behavior. Sometimes I think it would be better to perform keyword research on auto-complete over the finicky and inaccurate Google KW tool.

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                                                              • Cyle
                                                                Cyle @aarondicks last edited by

                                                                here is a link to Mechanical Turk: https://www.mturk.com/mturk/welcome you can leverage it to do tons of things.

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                                                                • aarondicks
                                                                  aarondicks @RobertChapman last edited by

                                                                  What is a mechanical turk?

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                                                                  • aarondicks
                                                                    aarondicks @Blargh123 last edited by

                                                                    Good explanation - so this can in theory be used for deep linking in the short term?...

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                                                                    • aarondicks
                                                                      aarondicks @bcmull last edited by

                                                                      Yes please explain more! I'd love to learn what you mean? As in post URL's, or ask people to search for your terms?!

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                                                                      • bcmull
                                                                        bcmull @ThomasHgenhaven last edited by

                                                                        Explain more please?

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                                                                        • Tre
                                                                          Tre last edited by

                                                                          • Tweet with a link to the Google SERP--requires something compelling.
                                                                          • Buy CPC traffic (such as from a tier 2 search network) and use the SERP as the landing page. You can buy clicks for less than $0.01, but Google may be able to ignore all of the traffic from click fraud (which seems inevitable at that price point).
                                                                          • Buy remnant banner space if there is a compelling reason that a user would want to conduct the search.
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                                                                          • Robert_Nemec
                                                                            Robert_Nemec last edited by

                                                                            In one of cases we worked on Google suggested "Brand name - very harmful keywords". It was mainly thanks to "tabloid campaign."

                                                                            We negotiated with the owners of websites and with a small legal help they deleted the pages where were the brand name and the harmful keywords. Then we use Google Webmaster Tools to inform Google about these changes (Webpage removal request tool).

                                                                            After that the harmful keyword dissapared from suggesting.

                                                                            Since than we use it successfully again and again. It seems, Google needs pages where are both brand name and problematic keyword(s) highlighted (title, Hn...).

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                                                                            • MattFielding
                                                                              MattFielding @philipjterry last edited by

                                                                              When it was first launched, Google suggestions came with a 'number of results' figure next to them, which disappeared soon after. Google Suggests is for ease of use, rather than for any SEO tactics, so they removed the figures.

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                                                                              • philipjterry
                                                                                philipjterry last edited by

                                                                                How does Google prioritize the what comes up in the auto-complete suggestions? By search volume or number of results or.......?

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                                                                                • Mehmet.Korukmez
                                                                                  Mehmet.Korukmez last edited by

                                                                                  Google is going crazy with Exact Match Domain Names.I have searched for philips home theatre keyword (Google UK) and Google has returned top 3 results from philips UK and 2 other results from USA and India (.in and subdomain from .com).

                                                                                  I have been testing power of the exact match on the url,so far I have reached to the position 9 on facebook live keyword(UK) with facebooklive.co.uk (google) and Position 2 on Yahoo and Bing.

                                                                                  Not sure this is Google's interim solution until they find a better algorithm method after the Panda operation but this works!...

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                                                                                  • MattFielding
                                                                                    MattFielding last edited by

                                                                                    The other side to this is the fact that it's easier to optimize for the terms Google Suggest already gives you than to try to make Google suggest the terms you're optimizing for. Use it as keyword research - if you're optimizing a bracelets e-commerce site, you'll see Google suggest 'bracelets for men' and 'bracelets for women' - other queries will produce less obvious results!

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                                                                                    • philipjterry
                                                                                      philipjterry last edited by

                                                                                      Just in case you have not read this already........

                                                                                      http://searchengineland.com/how-to-use-google-instant-as-a-powerful-link-building-x-ray-51729

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                                                                                      • CareerBliss
                                                                                        CareerBliss @Goetzman last edited by

                                                                                        So, Mechanical Turk is a an Amazon solution for a scalable workforce. You can have thousands of people around the world complete simple tasks for you. They are your brute force solution for getting work done. So, in the instance of manipulating suggested search, you utilize them to perform different queries other than company + scam in Google in order to, over time, knock that terms OFF of suggested search.

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                                                                                        • jsturgeon
                                                                                          jsturgeon last edited by

                                                                                          Has anyone noticed a higher correlation among sites that use Google custom search? I know the queries made through custom search aren't necessarily using brand keywords, but I imagine that a higher volume of searches that include your domain must have an impact on autocomplete.

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                                                                                          • philipjterry
                                                                                            philipjterry last edited by

                                                                                            I like to find root causes and reasons why events happen:

                                                                                            causes of....

                                                                                            effects of....

                                                                                            Or if it is complicated and needs simplifying:

                                                                                            whats the reasoning.....

                                                                                            in a nutshell <then the="" first="" two="" letters="" of="" what="" you="" want="">(this method seems to work well back to front</then>

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                                                                                            • SEOTeam35
                                                                                              SEOTeam35 last edited by

                                                                                              Press Releases and Google News- 5-6 releases a month in order to influence the suggest for a particular phrase and also mentioned in Google News for a particular article or content can help to include the keywords in the suggest.

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                                                                                              • PrivateNameAM
                                                                                                PrivateNameAM last edited by

                                                                                                Long tail anchor tags and (maybe) tags in clouds.

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                                                                                                • rishil
                                                                                                  rishil last edited by

                                                                                                  I came in to add link to my post http://explicitly.me/manipulating-google-suggest-results-–-an-alternative-theory but seems coule of people have already done that 🙂 Thanks guys!

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                                                                                                  • SallyO
                                                                                                    SallyO @Goetzman last edited by

                                                                                                    That's what I'm also interested in. What do you ask exactly to do?

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                                                                                                    • Goetzman
                                                                                                      Goetzman @Dr-Pete last edited by

                                                                                                      If I may be so blunt: What do you ask people on the mechanical turk to do? 🙂 estimated costs?

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                                                                                                      • RobertChapman
                                                                                                        RobertChapman last edited by

                                                                                                        Are mechanical turks easy to use?

                                                                                                        Any comments?

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                                                                                                          When I search any term for my organization, we are getting good results BUT the company name, next to the results URL is of an orgnization we acquired many years back and not the name of our company.  The  URL is correct page JUST the company name next to this URL is incorrect on the Google search results page. How do I go about changing so the company name next to the URL ?

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                                                                                                        • storemachine

                                                                                                          Spam in search engine results for company brand name

                                                                                                          Hi, I'm having a strange problem with a certain comapny. When you Google their brand name the first 8 results or so are related - their site, Google+ page, Twitter etc. The rest of the results are completely unrelated to the site and much of it is in another language and looks really spammy. According to the site owner until recently the first 50-60 results were related - mostly local results, press releases, and franchise companies listing his business. They don't have a great link profile but that shouldn't have them dropping out of the results, especially since they're still ranking in the top 1-8 positions. Here's the strangest part: the company name is Libertana. All the spammy results are not so much spammy, they're related to the syllable "na". Examples: Ivanyukite-Na Mineral Data įt$koka!na's sounds on SoundCloud - Hear the world's sounds Bosiniya na Herizegovina - Wikipedia What on earth is going on? Why would they rank for the last syllable of their name?

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                                                                                                        • Ticket_King

                                                                                                          Google displays the wrong store hours. Can anyone help lead me to the fix?

                                                                                                          When doing the following search on Google "Ticket King Milwaukee hours" we see the wrong hours displayed at the top of the page. Just to the left of our places page, you will see "Tuesday hours 8:30-1:00 pm." That 1 pm closing comes up for every weekday, even though we are open until 6 pm weekdays, and 3 pm on Saturdays. I have checked the hours listed on our G+ page, our "Places for Business" page, our "about us" page on our website, and can't find where they are getting this incorrect data. I even went out and checked most of the "List your business" sites that I have registered with.
                                                                                                          I have submitted this to Google, but have not heard back. Does anyone have any ideas as to how I can fix this, or at least find out where this bad data is coming from? I did find a company blog post from 2010 that listed our ours in a somewhat confusing way, but it was still correct. (I have since fixed that old post.)

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                                                                                                        • valadas

                                                                                                          Google auto-correct affecting one of my keywords

                                                                                                          Hi there, I have a keyword "finao montreal" that used to rank 8 or 9 in Google serp. All of a sudden it dropped under the top 50 results, I was wondering why and I found out that Google now auto-corrects "finao montreal" to "final montreal". Finao is a well know brand of custom high-end photo albums and I find it strange that Google corrects it. Anyone has an idea on what to do with this situation? Is there a way to provide Google some feedback about the autocorrect?

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                                                                                                        • AndreVanKets

                                                                                                          Video's Pros and Cons - YouTube vs My website or both?

                                                                                                          This isn't really a question per say, but more of a request for advise. We are in the process of creating videos for our travel website. They are more informational and do not promote any products as such. I am aware of the options, and I am leaning towards creating a pro account with Vimeo so that the videos are available only on our website. The reason for this is so that we can at least get credit for our work, as when they are on you tube, anybody can syndicate the video without linking to our website. I am also aware that there are allot of searches happening on YouTube, and it may be worse if we choose not to upload our videos there as we would loose out on a big audience. it would be GREAT if we had the best of both options. And i had an idea i want to get your opinions on. Create the video and upload onto our website with "lower competitive" title / meta / body. Submit the video on YouTube with a "Higher competitive" keyword / title /meta and description. When someone finds our video, they might search YouTube to avoid linking back and wont find it, (although it is there getting traffic from a similar keyword) Branding is the number 1 objective for these videos, so you tube + many other video sites would be the way to go. However, i would also like our own "private" video blog on our site so that if web masters like the video, we can give them the option of embedding it on there site (like SEOMOZ do it on there whiteboard Fridays) Your comments and suggestions will be muchly appreciated. Greg

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                                                                                                        • EGOL

                                                                                                          Google Displays Domain / URL Above Description?

                                                                                                          I am seeing a new SERP format from Google. (new for me at least) In the past the title tag would display as the first line of a listing, followed by description and domain / URL. Today I see the domain / URL as the second line. This is placing an emphasis on "Who".  If you have a big brand or a great URL this might be helpful to your CTR. Are you seeing this?  What do you think of it?

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